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Flashing

A drip beside the chimney, the wall or the vent pipe

You see a drip that comes only after rain, and it sits near a chimney, a wall, a vent or a skylight. Tell us where it is. We book an independent roofer to look at that joint first, and the repair goes into a written proposal you read before work starts.

Asking where the water gets in commits you to nothing.

What we do

We help you find where the water really gets in and book a diagnostic visit with an independent roofer, who puts the fix in a written proposal.

Tell us which joint is dripping

A name, a phone and what you are seeing is enough to start.

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Our word before the ladder goes up

  • You owe nothing for asking, and you can walk away.
  • The visit looks for the way in before any roof talk.
  • You see the repair proposal in writing before work starts.
  • The $100 credit follows the rules on our Terms page.

The roofer you hire answers for their own work and contract.

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What this word covers
Metal step flashing climbing a brick chimney where the shingled roof meets it, with a corner flashing at the base

The drawing

The joints where water finds a way

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  1. 1

    Chimney

  2. 2

    Wall line

  3. 3

    Vent pipe boot

  4. 4

    Fan hood

  5. 5

    Skylight

  6. 6

    Valley

  • Chimney cricket A small peak behind a wide chimney sends water around it.
  • Kick-out A bent piece at the wall's low end turns water into the gutter.
  • Vent boot The collar where a pipe leaves the roof, flashed to the shingle maker's instructions.
  • Valley lining Metal or membrane under the shingles where two slopes meet.

Questions

Settle these before the joint is opened

What is flashing, in plain words?

Flashing is sheet metal or a similar piece set at a joint so water runs over it instead of into the house. It sits where a roof meets a wall, a chimney, a pipe or a skylight.

Is sealant enough to stop a joint drip?

Sealant alone rarely addresses how a joint is built. Ask the roofer whether the flashing pieces are in place and overlapped correctly before anything is sealed on top.

Could the chimney be the source?

If the stain is closest to the chimney and shows after rain, the chimney joint is a good first suspect. Tell us which side of the chimney it is on.

What is a kick-out?

A kick-out is a bent flashing piece at the low end of a roof-to-wall joint. It turns the water into the gutter so it does not run down the wall.

Why does the stain show on the ceiling but not on the siding?

Water can run behind newer siding for years without showing outside. A clean wall is not proof that the joint is sound.

Can a bath fan hood cause a stain?

A hood needs its own flashing, and a fan that vents into the attic can cause a stain too. The roofer should check both before proposing a repair.

Do I need to climb up and look?

No. Look from the ground and the attic hatch, take dated photos and write down where the drip is. The roofer will examine the roof itself.

Should I seal the joint myself in the meantime?

It is better to leave it alone. A fresh layer of sealant can hide the very gap the roofer needs to see, and it can trap water behind it. Take dated photos, put a towel or bucket under the drip, and tell us where the water shows. Stay away from any wet light or switch, and keep people out from under a ceiling that bulges or sags; for a wet fixture, call an electrician. The joint gets dealt with properly once the cause is known.

Brown water stain spreading across a white bedroom ceiling above a window and crown molding

By timing

What each stain timing changes at a joint

  1. 1

    Only in or after rain

    A drip that follows rain and sits beside an opening is the classic joint stain. The roofer works from the nearest opening up the slope, and your note of the wall or fixture saves time.

  2. 2

    After a cold, clear night

    A stain beside a bath fan hood after a cold, clear night may be steam, not rain. The roofer checks whether the fan vents outdoors before blaming the flashing.

  3. 3

    When snow melts

    Meltwater runs down the slope and meets every wall and chimney in its path. The roofer checks that each one sheds that water back onto the roof or toward the gutter.

  4. 4

    Same spot after every repair

    A joint repair that keeps failing may have a design gap, such as no kick-out or no cricket. The proposal should name that gap, not only a new bead of sealant.

Signs

Signs the joint is the way in

  • A drip beside the chimney

    A stain on the ceiling or wall nearest the chimney after rain points at its joint. Note which side of the chimney is closest.

  • A stain under a wall line

    Where a lower roof meets a taller wall, a stain below that line suggests the wall joint. Look for a kick-out at the bottom.

  • Damp around a vent pipe

    A wet ring around a pipe through the ceiling can mean the boot at the roof. Photograph it and note the weather.

  • A stained skylight frame

    Staining around a skylight shows water arriving at the opening. Say which side shows it first.

  • Dry siding, wet ceiling

    Newer siding can hide wall water for years. Do not take clean siding as proof that the wall joint is sound.

What it covers

What a flashing repair covers

  • Chimney and cricket

    The roofer checks the flashing at the chimney and whether a wide chimney has a cricket on its uphill side.

  • Wall lines and kick-outs

    Base flashing along a wall is checked for step or continuous form, and for a kick-out at its low end.

  • Vent boots and fan hoods

    Each opening through the roof is checked for its own flashing, and for how the pipe or hood sits in it.

  • Skylights

    The flashing on every side of the skylight is checked, especially the uphill side.

  • Valleys

    The valley lining is checked for how it sits under the shingles and how wide an open valley runs.

The sequence

What happens, in order, at a joint

  • Tell us which joint

    You point us to the chimney, wall, vent or skylight nearest the drip.

  • The roofer looks at it

    An independent roofer examines that joint and the roof around it.

  • You hear how it is built

    The roofer says what is there, what is missing and what the repair would change.

  • You read the proposal

    The joint repair and any cause behind it are written out before work starts.

Older two-story white wood-frame house with a snow-covered porch roof, a brick chimney and a dormer

Where you are

Find out first, then repair, then fix the cause

The order is the point. Each step stops the next one from being a guess.

  1. 01

    Find out where it gets in

    An independent roofer visits to find the way in. You get the answer before anyone talks about a covering.

  2. 02

    Repair that one thing

    This page

    The roofer sets out the specific repair. The written proposal covers the work they would do. You read it before work starts.

  3. 03

    Deal with the cause

    Air sealing, venting or drainage comes after. Then the stain is less likely to return next winter.

How a joint gets judged without guessing its age

The code describes how a joint is built, not how long it lasts. Along a taller wall, base flashing runs in one piece or in steps, and the code sets a minimum of four inches each way. Its job is to hand the water back to the roof or the gutter. Pipe and chimney flashing follows the shingle maker's printed instructions.

So the useful question is not how old the joint is. It is whether the joint matches that description. Ask the roofer to say which parts are there and which are missing.

You can help by noting what you can see from the ground. Is there a bright strip of metal at the base of the chimney, a bent piece at the bottom of the wall line, a collar round each pipe? Write down what you spot, and say what you cannot find. The roofer starts with your list and then looks for the rest.

The wall joint that clean siding can hide

Where a roof meets a wall, a kick-out at the bottom sends water into the gutter instead of down behind the siding. Without one, water can run behind newer vinyl or brick veneer for years, because those materials do not peel and blister the way old paint does.

If your drip sits under a wall line, tell the roofer, and ask if the wall has a kick-out. A repair at the joint that skips this piece is a repair that may need doing again.

Chimneys, and the small peak behind them

A chimney wider than 30 inches across the slope needs a cricket, also called a saddle, on its uphill side. The cricket splits the water that runs down the roof and steers it round the chimney. Without it, water stacks up behind the masonry and works at the flashing.

Ask whether your chimney is wide enough to need one, and whether it has one. A narrow chimney may not, and the roofer should say so plainly.

Vents, hoods and skylights are openings too

Every pipe, bath fan hood and skylight is a hole cut in the roof, and each needs its own flashing. When one drips, the answer is rarely a bead of sealant across the top. It is a look at how that piece sits in the roof around it.

Tell us which of these is nearest your drip. If a bath fan sits close, add where it vents, because a fan that ends in the attic can cause a stain that looks like a leaking hood.

Before a joint is sealed over

Pry bar, claw hammer, tin snips and a coil of metal flashing laid on a grey cloth over weathered boards

Sealant looks like a quick answer, and it can be a fair one for a small gap. But a joint that is built wrong, with a missing kick-out or a flashing piece that is too small, gives sealant nothing solid to hold. Ask the roofer what is under the bead before anything goes on top.

Ask too how far the roofer will look beyond the spot you pointed to. Joints often share a weakness with their neighbors, and a drip at one chimney corner can sit beside a problem at the other. Your question gets that into the proposal as its own line.

Finally, ask what is behind the joint. If the wall wears newer siding, the roofer may need to lift a section to see the flashing, and you should hear that before the visit, not on the day.

Paperwork

What the proposal should say about the joint

  • Which joint

    The chimney, wall line, vent, hood or skylight named, not just "the roof".

  • What is there and what is missing

    Flashing that exists, and any kick-out or cricket the joint lacks.

  • The repair and its instructions

    What will be done, and which printed instructions it follows for pipe flashing.

  • What it means for nearby joints

    Anything beside it that shares the same weakness.

Price

What moves a flashing proposal

  • How many joints need work
  • The size and height of the chimney
  • Whether a cricket or kick-out has to be added
  • How steep and how high the roof is
  • The condition of the masonry or siding at the joint
  • How much of the surrounding roof has to be opened

Reading

More on roof joints

Name the joint that drips and book the visit.